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Illegal Residential Sector => Electric City => Topic started by: paul1290 on September 21, 2007, 06:44:09 PM



Title: Air
Post by: paul1290 on September 21, 2007, 06:44:09 PM
Has anyone else seen Air?

The animation is very well done. The storyline was one of the best I've seen in an anime despite being relatively simple. The soundtrack was great too.

It's probably one of the few anime that almost made me cry, and that's hard to do.

If anyone is interested in watching it, it's sometimes shown on the Anime Network. I've heard there's also going to be a movie to be released in America towards the end of this year.

Anyway, here's a link to the opening:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=36Allc6uwZs&mode=related&search=




Title: Air
Post by: seraphjei on September 21, 2007, 07:07:20 PM
Movies been out for a while. There is the original game done by Key, Kyoto animation then made an anime based on the game. Toei later produced a movie. Its a terrific anime, and since it's made by Kyotoani, its sure to be good. Id recommend watching Air along with Kanon. As a whole Air is probably one of the best anime i've seen.


Title: Air
Post by: paul1290 on September 21, 2007, 07:27:53 PM
Oops, when I said the movie was going to be released towards the end of this year I meant the English version.

I've seen parts of the original version though. I kind of like the animation style used in the anime more than the one used in movie. However, I don't understand Japanese so I can't really say which one I like better overall.


Title: Re: Air
Post by: EyeOfPain on September 23, 2007, 02:09:41 AM
I watched the first episode subbed, but I guess I wasn't too impressed. I may check it out later, since it'll probably get a ThinPak, with all the attention it seems to be getting.


Title: Re: Air
Post by: paul1290 on September 23, 2007, 10:07:54 AM
You should definitly try seeing it in English.

The English dub isn't as good as the original voice acting, but having to read subtitles really hurts this particular series. The emotional impact of many of the scenes is pretty much destroyed if you have to read any subtitles at all. Unless you grew up learning Japanese, you'd probably have to settle for the English dub to really enjoy this anime. 




Title: Re: Air
Post by: EyeOfPain on September 24, 2007, 03:38:44 AM
I'm mainly a dubbie to begin with, but I can really see how that would make a big difference in one's appreciation of a show like this.

I've heard it's slow-moving, but I guess, in this case, that's not really an argument for watching with the subtitles on.


Title: Re: Air
Post by: Brooklyn Luckfield on September 24, 2007, 01:51:15 PM
I watched a few episodes, wasn't impressed much. Animation is nice and seeing as it's an ADV dub = big time pass for me.


Title: Re: Air
Post by: seraphjei on October 13, 2007, 12:23:59 AM
ADV=lose
Give the orignial Japanese voice cast a try, you'll be pleasantly impressed how much difference it makes.


Title: Re: Air
Post by: DOMON KASSHU! on October 19, 2007, 05:50:58 AM
I don't know, didn't the ADV team do the Sonic the Hedgehog OAV years and years back? Anyway, I thought about watching this as so many people have tried to tell me how worthwhile it is, but it seems far too "sappy-romance-nothing-happens" for my tastes. But I know some people are into that, and the designs and art do look great, so don't think I'm dissing it. It's just not up my alley, I guess.
War.


Title: Re: Air
Post by: R. Daniel 01 on March 02, 2008, 10:32:24 PM
I finally saw it! Well, I saw it a month ago, but I just recently remembered about this thread.

Air was very unimpressive. At times, it looked as if it were on the track to grandeur, but within the confines of 13 episodes, the show had too many arcs and not enough time to make any of them 100% legit.

Kanon is the show you'll want to watch. In many ways, Air was just a spinoff of Kanon. It followed Kanon's formula, and it was in fact made by the same people. (In episode 3, the main characters of Kanon even have a cameo appearance!)

Joker, don't watch Air. Watch Kanon. If you want a show that has a sort of beautiful sadness, watch Kanon. It's a masterpiece, not a spinoff like Air.

I wonder if Seraphjei would agree with me on this one. I hope he sees this post.



This makes me curious. Have you seen Kanon, Paul1290?


Title: Re: Air
Post by: Brooklyn Luckfield on March 03, 2008, 02:46:43 AM
Finally broke down and watch the full OVA, was very meh, it's not the high art people make it out to be.


Title: Re: Air
Post by: DOMON KASSHU! on March 03, 2008, 01:59:43 PM
I finally saw it! Well, I saw it a month ago, but I just recently remembered about this thread.

Air was very unimpressive. At times, it looked as if it were on the track to grandeur, but within the confines of 13 episodes, the show had too many arcs and not enough time to make any of them 100% legit.

Kanon is the show you'll want to watch. In many ways, Air was just a spinoff of Kanon. It followed Kanon's formula, and it was in fact made by the same people. (In episode 3, the main characters of Kanon even have a cameo appearance!)

Joker, don't watch Air. Watch Kanon. If you want a show that has a sort of beautiful sadness, watch Kanon. It's a masterpiece, not a spinoff like Air.

I wonder if Seraphjei would agree with me on this one. I hope he sees this post.



This makes me curious. Have you seen Kanon, Paul1290?

Watch Kanon, you say? Huh...

I'd much rather watch a show with plenty of violence, maybe a dramatic subplot, and a booby or two. Can't I just watch that? Is it even possible to watch shows like this and retain your masculinity?
War.


Title: Re: Air
Post by: R. Daniel 01 on March 03, 2008, 05:50:53 PM

Watch Kanon, you say? Huh...

Is it even possible to watch shows like this and retain your masculinity?
War.

As long as you still like shows with boobs and explosions, I think so.

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the OVA was very meh, it's not the high art people make it out to be

Damn. The movie looked a bit better than the show. Guess I won't even bother, now.


Title: Re: Air
Post by: DOMON KASSHU! on March 03, 2008, 06:40:14 PM

Watch Kanon, you say? Huh...

Is it even possible to watch shows like this and retain your masculinity?
War.

As long as you still like shows with boobs and explosions, I think so.

If I watch Kanon, and then end up watching the Lifetime Channel somehow, I'm coming for your blood.
War.


Title: Re: Air
Post by: Hobo on March 03, 2008, 06:42:09 PM
...end up watching the Lifetime Channel...

I hope this happens.  You could see the tragic story of a woman who is a terrible person, but it's not her fault, and in fact all men are evil rapists pedophiles.


Title: Re: Air
Post by: seraphjei on March 04, 2008, 05:18:50 PM
I finally saw it! Well, I saw it a month ago, but I just recently remembered about this thread.

Air was very unimpressive. At times, it looked as if it were on the track to grandeur, but within the confines of 13 episodes, the show had too many arcs and not enough time to make any of them 100% legit.

Kanon is the show you'll want to watch. In many ways, Air was just a spinoff of Kanon. It followed Kanon's formula, and it was in fact made by the same people. (In episode 3, the main characters of Kanon even have a cameo appearance!)

Joker, don't watch Air. Watch Kanon. If you want a show that has a sort of beautiful sadness, watch Kanon. It's a masterpiece, not a spinoff like Air.

I wonder if Seraphjei would agree with me on this one. I hope he sees this post.



This makes me curious. Have you seen Kanon, Paul1290?

Watch Kanon, you say? Huh...

I'd much rather watch a show with plenty of violence, maybe a dramatic subplot, and a booby or two. Can't I just watch that? Is it even possible to watch shows like this and retain your masculinity?
War.

(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2623/bemachoue5ex5.jpg)
You can't get more badass than Kanon.

Joking aside, the show isn't for everyone, but it's a good show nonetheless. I stick by R. Daniel's claim. I consider Kanon to be a masterpiece, on more than one level. With that said, I also recommend Clannad, which is the newest addition to the Kyotoani, key adaptation series.

As a side note, Air was probably the most inferior out of the three key adaptations. It's not because the story lacks substance, it's simply because at the time, not enough of the budget went into making the show as good as it could have been. Air had a lot of potential, but had to be the unfortunate victim of being chosen first by Kyoto Animation to be adapted into an anime.

IMO: Air > Kanon = Clannad




Title: Re: Air
Post by: paul1290 on March 06, 2008, 08:34:17 PM

This makes me curious. Have you seen Kanon, Paul1290?

Actually I have seen Kanon.

I do agree that Kanon does keep the storyline much better held together than Air.

However, I kind of preferred Air's more eccentric tone as well as it's tendancy to go off in wierd directions, which ironically seemed to be what you didn't like about it.

I have yet to see Clannad though.


Title: Re: Air
Post by: R. Daniel 01 on March 06, 2008, 09:14:30 PM
However, I kind of preferred Air's more eccentric tone as well as it's tendancy to go off in wierd directions, which ironically seemed to be what you didn't like about it.

I love weird directions! In fact, that eccentricity helps keep Air alive in my memory. But alongside that is the disappointment that Air didn't have enough development beneath the twists and the characters.

Air is like the skeleton of a great big creature, but it's Kanon that has the meat on its bones. 13 extra episodes makes a walloping difference.


(Air definitely has a better opening song, though!)



Yeah, I'm definitely going to have to catch Clannad now, too.

This is amusing. We seem to be forming a romantic animé enclave within CoA.


Title: Re: Air
Post by: paul1290 on March 07, 2008, 01:11:03 PM
Is it even possible to watch shows like this and retain your masculinity?

Sure it is!

Unless, of course, you happen to be very insecure when it comes to your masculinity.  :D



Title: Re: Air
Post by: DOMON KASSHU! on March 07, 2008, 01:15:47 PM
I'm very secure. But these shows seem to have a hypnotic like effect of infecting people with a case of the effeminate.
War.