Title: Third Season Money Post by: Hal356 on June 15, 2009, 03:43:51 PM If a Third Season was to be made, how much of a donation would be needed to actually get everyone back on their feet for a third season of the Big O? Who would this donation go to?
I was just thinking this because if I won the lottery (fat chance), I would put the lottery money toward a 3rd season of The Big O. Would this all be possible? Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Brooklyn Luckfield on June 15, 2009, 04:38:48 PM If you have the cash, I'm sure Sunrise would make a 3rd season.
Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Professor Vogler on June 15, 2009, 09:55:59 PM I'd saying maybe a full season of 13 episodes, a couple hundred-thousand.
An OVA might be cheeper, and awesome. The real trick (aside from finding the money)... ((and convincing them to get off their asses))... is to get the original team back together. Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Big Duo on September 08, 2009, 10:18:29 PM I'm just curious about The Big-O. Will there ever be a 3rd Season? Is Bandai (or whichever company that produces Big-O) considering installing a 3rd season?
Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: R. Daniel 01 on September 08, 2009, 11:09:20 PM As far as we know, nobody is planning to make a third season. The task rests entirely on us fans.
Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Brooklyn Luckfield on September 09, 2009, 12:53:16 PM CN has the option to make I think 2 more seasons of Big O when the second season was airing on AS, but we all know how that story turned out. It's not like the interest in a 3rd season isn't there, it's discussed quite a bit on the AS forums.
Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Big Duo on September 09, 2009, 09:55:06 PM So I guess the people behind Big-O didn't want it.... I wonder if it will ever get a 3rd installment? I would like it. It would be cool if there was something that was made called Big-O: The Lost Episodes or something. Oh well... ::)
BTW - has anybody recently heard anything from CN/Bandai/etc. about ever making another season? Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Brooklyn Luckfield on September 09, 2009, 10:14:19 PM If I recall the reason it didn't get a 3rd season was because of "low ratings", which is a crock. When the second season premiered, Big O was pulling 800k viewers per episode. It really boiled down to Mike Lazzo's dislike Big O and anime in general. The fact that Big O was beating several of the comedy shows didn't help matters either.
Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Char Aznable on September 10, 2009, 01:12:19 AM I think I've said it before and I'll say it again: Lazzo needs to pull his head out of his ass and get over his hating of anime that people like. So what Big-O beat his beloved comedy? He needs to worry about the ratings game, not his personal tastes in television. New Big-O=Ratings=Loads-O'-Money.
Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: EyeOfPain on September 26, 2009, 12:29:20 PM If I recall the reason it didn't get a 3rd season was because of "low ratings", which is a crock. When the second season premiered, Big O was pulling 800k viewers per episode. And at the same time, most of the comedies were getting somewhere around 1Mil+ views. It's not that TBO got bad ratings, just not the ratings they wanted. Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Brooklyn Luckfield on September 27, 2009, 09:30:44 AM If I recall the reason it didn't get a 3rd season was because of "low ratings", which is a crock. When the second season premiered, Big O was pulling 800k viewers per episode. And at the same time, most of the comedies were getting somewhere around 1Mil+ views. It's not that TBO got bad ratings, just not the ratings they wanted. Family Guy I know was pulling 1 mil+, the others I'm not so sure about. I remember Lazzo being furious that Big O beating Aqua Team, and the other home grown stuff. Either way, a 3rd season would be nice, as they have replayed the second season to death. Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Sharpshooter005 on October 20, 2009, 05:08:30 PM Family Guy reruns are consistently the highest ranking show in their ratings. But thats just because people are way too into remembering pop-culture bullshit from 1980s.
The fact is anime is never much of a draw comparatively, the numbers across the board for all shows are lower. You can argue this is partly because of when its aired (saturday nights, the target demographic is usually busy or otherwise not watching t.v then), you can argue its because animu isn't as big a thing, but there was and is no grand conspiracy to keep the big o off the air. Face it, the second season was a big investment for a basic cable network programming block. And it didn't yield the returns they wanted. Television is above all a business, the show was a business venture, it didn't pan out. Furthermore, and I keep hearing "BUT A THIRD SEASON WAS PLANNED/MEANT TO HAPPEN/STILL COULD". If the writer had such a brilliant idea for a third season then why hasn't he posted this onto the internet, people would love to know. Hell as critical as I am of the second season/the reaction the fanbase has had, if he came up with even a vague outline of ideas I'd read it. He hasn't. The fact a second season was even produced due to fan response is more than most shows, and I don't even mean animu, ever get. edit: If you wanna latch onto a failed cause for a third season of a show, feel free to write into fox and tell them to drop that hack nerd-celeb joss whedon's project and put on another season of terminator: the sarah connor chronicles. I'd enjoy that. Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Brooklyn Luckfield on October 20, 2009, 06:09:44 PM Family Guy reruns are consistently the highest ranking show in their ratings. But thats just because people are way too into remembering pop-culture bullshit from 1980s. The fact is anime is never much of a draw comparatively, the numbers across the board for all shows are lower. You can argue this is partly because of when its aired (saturday nights, the target demographic is usually busy or otherwise not watching t.v then), you can argue its because animu isn't as big a thing, but there was and is no grand conspiracy to keep the big o off the air. Face it, the second season was a big investment for a basic cable network programming block. And it didn't yield the returns they wanted. Television is above all a business, the show was a business venture, it didn't pan out. Furthermore, and I keep hearing "BUT A THIRD SEASON WAS PLANNED/MEANT TO HAPPEN/STILL COULD". If the writer had such a brilliant idea for a third season then why hasn't he posted this onto the internet, people would love to know. Hell as critical as I am of the second season/the reaction the fanbase has had, if he came up with even a vague outline of ideas I'd read it. He hasn't. The fact a second season was even produced due to fan response is more than most shows, and I don't even mean animu, ever get. edit: If you wanna latch onto a failed cause for a third season of a show, feel free to write into fox and tell them to drop that hack nerd-celeb joss whedon's project and put on another season of terminator: the sarah connor chronicles. I'd enjoy that. I can agree with this. They canned/thinking of canning the Sarah Connor Chronicles? Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Sharpshooter005 on October 20, 2009, 07:34:33 PM Axed it, it's done.
Then again unless they made the third season just however many episodes of resistance forces fighting robots I dunno where it could go from the last episode. (I would not have minded a whole season of guerilla anti-terminator warfare, band of brothers but the nazis are made of metal is a good concept.) Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Professor Vogler on October 21, 2009, 01:25:19 AM Quote If the writer had such a brilliant idea for a third season then why hasn't he posted this onto the internet, people would love to know. Actually it's quite common for writers to not divulge plans for seasons or shows that got ended early or just not renewed. There's always that "what if", and if they can still make money off of it why give it away for free?Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: The Ghost Of Ember on October 23, 2009, 10:08:10 AM Really, all I want them to do is animate the original ending (http://www.paradigm-city.com/scripts/article.php?a=bigoact26) for one of the DVD releases, so that we can put an end to all this 'wait it was all just an endless cycle with no changes?' bull. Most of the work is already done since they could reuse old footage, as they mostly did.
Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Sharpshooter005 on October 31, 2009, 08:10:32 PM Quote If the writer had such a brilliant idea for a third season then why hasn't he posted this onto the internet, people would love to know. Actually it's quite common for writers to not divulge plans for seasons or shows that got ended early or just not renewed. There's always that "what if", and if they can still make money off of it why give it away for free?I can completely understand this. And I'm not blaming him. But if he SEVERELY NEEDED TO GET this hypothetical idea told in some form of media? Theres options. (Also, was it Konaka who said this? He's fucking insane. I loved Serial Experiments Lain, and big o was okay, but he's insane. I remember seeing some interview with him where he was all "I dont want lain appreciated by americans" or something. He's either a brilliant troll or a typical xenophobic jap freakjob) So yeah if I'm remembering right, and he was the writer? He's off doing something else probably cause he seems kinda bizarre. Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: EyeOfPain on November 02, 2009, 11:06:01 PM I do recall recently reading an article that Lain contained some blatant anti-American dialog, which got written out of the English dub. I don't typically browse ANN, but it comes up in this (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=677019) thread.
Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Professor Vogler on November 03, 2009, 12:38:34 AM But if he SEVERELY NEEDED TO GET this hypothetical idea told in some form of media? Theres options. I thought it was a team of writers. Konaka has gone on to work on Eureka7 and some other anime. But anywho, not sure if I understand that first sentence in the quote there, Sharp. Are you still asking why he hasn't divulged old plot plans yet?(Also, was it Konaka who said this? He's fucking insane. I loved Serial Experiments Lain, and big o was okay, but he's insane. I remember seeing some interview with him where he was all "I dont want lain appreciated by americans" or something. He's either a brilliant troll or a typical xenophobic jap freakjob) And yeah, I heard the same rumors about Lain as well... don't really know how to take them, but meh I haven't even gotten around to watching that series yet (I should). It wasn't Konaka who said that, it was actually people from the original "ReBoot" staff (specifically when asked what was to be planned for "The Hunt" after the cliffhanger the series ended on). It seems like a logical professional decision to make. If you can make thousand or millions of dollars of a media idea, why give it away for free? Even after 6-7 years of no Big O, if they reintroduced the series there'd still be some revenue to its name, even with such diminished interest. Now of course ReBoot is in production again (woot!) but the original writing team is not on it... so will they stick with what they said, or just hold out more I dunno. Right now I think the money is in the action figures (for Big O). Afterall the series was made to sell a toy, and this new toy is sellin' like hotcakes. *EDIT* (My bad, I was thinking of Hajime Yatate, which was the collective pseudonym for the Sunrise team) Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Brooklyn Luckfield on November 03, 2009, 02:28:36 AM I didn't find Lain to being so much Anti-American, as it is the typical Japanese butthurt. It was Yasuyuki Ueda that mentioned how he wanted to create the show with Japanese values and hoped American's wouldn't get it or understand it's values, but of course the American fans did, and much butthurt followed.
Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: paul1290 on November 03, 2009, 10:51:17 AM I always thought that bit regarding Lain was a tad exaggerated. I usually take anything from translated interviews with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Sharpshooter005 on December 05, 2009, 09:58:54 PM Quote Sharp. Are you still asking why he hasn't divulged old plot plans yet? I was never really asking. Until an outline is provided from one of the writers, I'm not even gonna believe there was a plan edit: I can't find a screencap/youtube of that part in Lain where the sweater alien just kinda appears out of nowhere and grins. But damn did I get freaked out when I first saw that. (Then again, when you grow up watching stuff like "Sightings", grey aliens become sorta a phobia) Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Jim_Dandy on May 06, 2010, 01:13:22 AM Episodes cost $100,000-$220,000 for high quality stuff plus a large sum for a good time slot on the air last time I checked. It's very expensive. An OVA would be much cheaper and wouldn't have all the sponsor fees and whatnot. Someone could email Konaka and see how much it would cost and who's @$$ he/we the Big O fans have to kiss to make something happen with the series. If there's a badass redesign of Big O himself for absolutely no reason that makes mecha fans shrill with delight and will sell well then it could be a not so far fetched possibilty.
And by the way is their some legal reason CN won't air season 1 of Big O again? Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: EyeOfPain on May 14, 2010, 08:12:42 PM Yes, the rights expired and they didn't pay to renew.
Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Sharpshooter005 on May 30, 2010, 05:27:27 AM I thought they periodically aired it at 3:30 am or something
Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Professor Vogler on June 11, 2010, 12:55:31 AM Apparently it's only the rights to Season 1 that expired. I suppose since CN is co-creator of season 2 they can replay season 2 as much as they want.
Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Char Aznable on June 17, 2010, 12:09:34 PM Yay for DVD's. I can watch Big-O whenever I want.
And I do. Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Yuko-san on June 25, 2010, 03:16:54 AM ^ Yup.
You think they will put Big O on Blu-Ray? I own the DvD's, but seeing as Blu-Ray is becoming popular then maybe they will make Blu-Ray box sets. --- Another thing. Lot's of people want a season 3, not just Americans but also Koreans, French, Germen and Spanish speaking people want a third season. I've even found a Chinese blog (Or at least before my computer went kaput I had a link too it), mentioning how some Chinese people have an interest in seeing the show continue. So why doesn't Bandai just buy the right's to ACT's season 3 and 3.5? Admittedly they needed a lot of text clean-up (I saved them to word documents to read in case my internet goes out/ his site goes down), but at least one more seasons worth of stuff is there. For those not familiar with ACT go to www.r-dorothy.com, you can find his season 3 and 3.1 on his site. Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: ianfeller on July 12, 2010, 04:35:47 AM I don't wish to sound dumb, but who exactly is this that wrote the extra season(s) (including 3.1). I took a look at the site you linked to and there are lots of interesting things there, but the author does not talk about him/herself at all. Is this just someone who decided to write their own fanfiction, or is it actually someone who was involved with the show. Also I haven't begun to read them so if anyone has. How good is it? Does it stay true to the 'original' material?
Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Professor Vogler on July 12, 2010, 05:42:34 AM He was an elder member of the original Paradigm City Forums. Not at all connected to the show, just a fan... with a weird writing style.
Title: Re: Third Season Money Post by: Char Aznable on July 12, 2010, 12:41:19 PM I think those are on the former server computer that is now dead...but I'm gonna salvage the hard drive.
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