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Title: A total thread for all things Dragon Ball
Post by: DOMON KASSHU! on August 01, 2007, 02:14:18 AM
You heard it, folks. Post all your DB, DBZ, and DBGT news and info here. Thoughts, reviews on movies, specific episodes, highlights, favourite characters and sagas!

I'm going to post somewhat sporadically in here with reviews on all 13 Dragon Ball Z movies. I'll also have my own personal reviews of the various sagas and landmark episodes of the series Dragon Ball Z as well. If anyone else wants to do something similar for GT or Dragon Ball, feel free. All the series (yes, even GT) have fun stuff and entertainment to offer.

Until then, prepare to be sent to the NEXT DIMENSION.
War.


Title: A total thread for all things Dragon Ball
Post by: Citizen Nine on August 01, 2007, 05:01:07 PM
Funny thing, I was flipping through the channels and went to Cartoon Network (bad form, bad form I know) and they were showing the Cell Saga. I saw the last couple of minutes but it was where Imperfect Cell fought Piccolo, defeated him, threw him into the water and started his showdown with Android 17. Good times... I guess.

Also, it reminds me of when DBZ would flucate between damn good quality in its animation and piss-poor godawful quality the next episode. Man, I hated that.
Peace.


Title: A total thread for all things Dragon Ball
Post by: Mike on August 01, 2007, 05:03:09 PM
DBZ was the coolest thing in the universe until Frieza died. Then it got sorta lame, but the androids and Cell were cool. Except the whole time-travel thing confused me for a while, I didn't realize different time meant different dimensions.

After the real death of Cell, the show kinda died for me. I couldn't get back into it, and then a big pink blob ate the world.


Title: A total thread for all things Dragon Ball
Post by: Citizen Nine on August 01, 2007, 05:19:39 PM
I said it once and I'll say it again; mecha Freezer was one of the worse things in DBZ. Completely ruined his character, hard.

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Except the whole time-travel thing confused me for a while, I didn't realize different time meant different dimensions.
Yeah, they did it differently then most with the time-traveling thing but I liked it. Wasn't that difficult to understand really, just that Trunks came to our reality from 20 years into the future and Cell came from even further than that.

Also, Majin Buu destroyed the world with a giant energy blast. But I guess its the same thing all around anyway.
Peace.


Title: A total thread for all things Dragon Ball
Post by: DOMON KASSHU! on August 01, 2007, 05:33:22 PM
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Also, it reminds me of when DBZ would flucate between damn good quality in its animation and piss-poor godawful quality the next episode. Man, I hated that.
Peace.

I can explain this. See, there are only three PRIMARY animators for Dragon Ball Z. Then there were around 9 or so tertiary animators, I believe. All the primary cells for animation are done by those three animators, who have slightly varying levels of skill and style for DBZ, all bringing a slightly different tone to their episodes. The tertiary animators follow the primary explicitly, mimicking his style to the best of their capabilities. The 3 animators are varying in their appearance.

One of them has the super sharp appearance that became standard in GT. You know, heavily polished, sharp angular lines?

The second one seems to make things... not softer, but blurred. He likes to portray speed I guess, and so the entire episode can look out of focus.

The third one makes those episodes that look like total garbage but we watch them anyway to find out what happens.

Next post I make will be a review of Dragon Ball Z movie 1: The Dead Zone, Ocean Group Dub.
War.




Title: A total thread for all things Dragon Ball
Post by: Citizen Nine on August 01, 2007, 05:37:06 PM
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The third one makes those episodes that look like total garbage but we watch them anyway to find out what happens.
Whoever this was makes me sick.

I like the first one though, that was always my favorite appearance as far as the animation goes.

EDIT: I think my favorite DBZ movie was the Hildegarn one. Nah, Brolly. Definetly Brolly. He kicked ass, I never did see the Bojack one though.
Peace.


Title: A total thread for all things Dragon Ball
Post by: DOMON KASSHU! on August 01, 2007, 05:53:44 PM
Dragon Ball Z: Movie 1 -- The Dead Zone

Voice Cast--
Goku: Peter Kelamis
Piccolo: Scott McNeil
Gohan: Saffron Henderson
Krillin: Terry Klassen
Garlic Jr.: Dave Ward

We begin with Piccolo screaming as powerfully as he can, shattering a mountain with the force of his voice. He is revealed to be training to destroy Son Gokou once and for all, but his training is interrupted by three shadowy figures who easily defeat and seem to destroy him. Garlic Jr., the demonic leader of these figures, has been collecting the dragonballs to wish for immortality to take over the throne of Kami which was denied his father. In order to collect all seven, he kidnaps Son Gohan to take the 4 star ball on his hat. Son Gokou races to the rescue, of course. Can Son Gokou save his son, stop Garlic Jr. and save Earth before the world is plunged into an age of darkness and blood? Find out, on Dragon Ball Z!

Okay, first off, I love how the Ocean Group dubbed movies KEEP the original soundtrack. While I love disturbed and saliva, and it's so cool to hear that during a fight between Cooler and Gokou (like a good DBZ AMV),  the original soundtrack offers its own spin to classic DBZ. The voice actors are surprisingly good and emotive in this movie, with little OVERDONE melodrama, something that comes to be expected of the Ocean Group series, for all those who watched the original Brian Drummon Vegeta role.

They don't censor slight swearing, which makes the conversations a little more realistic. The additions of Looney Tunes sound effects is a little irritating, but it can be dealt with in light of all that's positive here.

We see Piccolo and Son Gokou fighting together, something so refreshing here. Long before Saiyans, long before Vegeta, there was demons and heroes. These two powerful fighters face off against Garlic, and we even get to see Kami in action, fighting Garlic Jr.

The Kinto'un cloud appears, of course, in all its DB glory. The animation is excellently done, only par for the course. So far, the only moderately low grade movie I've seen is The Return of Cooler.

Garlic Jr.'s voice actor is very good. He's probably one of the best actors here next to Scott McNeil. I really found myself enjoying the fights in this movie. It was less zip lines and earth shattering punches, and more choreographed martial arts action. For those of you who are fans of classic Dragon Ball and early Dragon Ball Z, I recommend The Dead Zone at 4.5 out of 5 stars.
War.


Title: A total thread for all things Dragon Ball
Post by: Citizen Nine on August 01, 2007, 06:10:44 PM
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Piccolo: Scott McNeil
Gohan: Saffron Henderson
Wow, I didn't know they did the voice work for those two characters.

Small world in anime VA I guess. Oh, and Dead Zone was actually an alright DBZ movie. Gokou and Piccolo teaming up against Garlic was pretty good and even though everyone is buckwild in DBZ about immortality, ol' boy Garlic Jr. was the only one who actually got it.
Peace.


Title: A total thread for all things Dragon Ball
Post by: DOMON KASSHU! on August 01, 2007, 06:23:07 PM
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Wow, I didn't know they did the voice work for those two characters.

Small world in anime VA I guess. Oh, and Dead Zone was actually an alright DBZ movie. Gokou and Piccolo teaming up against Garlic was pretty good and even though everyone is buckwild in DBZ about immortality, [SPOILER]
Peace.

Yes, Scott McNeil is the VA for Piccolo through Ocean Group. Chris Sabat did it for FUNimation. Please refrain from the spoilers as that one is pretty plot specific.
War.


Title: A total thread for all things Dragon Ball
Post by: Citizen Nine on August 01, 2007, 06:26:30 PM
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Yes, Scott McNeil is the VA for Piccolo through Ocean Group. Chris Sabat did it for FUNimation. Please refrain from the spoilers as that one is pretty plot specific.
War.
Spoilers? For a DBZ movie? Are you kiddin'?
Peace.


Title: A total thread for all things Dragon Ball
Post by: DOMON KASSHU! on August 01, 2007, 06:28:32 PM
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Spoilers? For a DBZ movie? Are you kiddin'?
Peace.

No. You'd be surprised how many people have not seen the DBZ movies, and only know of the series. Not to mention, the DBZ movies are pretty much their own continuity, so people who see these will experience a slightly different storyline than the series. I'd like for people to approach these movies fresh, Nine, and to be as surprised as I was by the things that happened. After all, when you've seen the entire Saiyan and Freeza sagas, then see these movies, you'll be surprised.
War.


Title: A total thread for all things Dragon Ball
Post by: Galatea on August 01, 2007, 06:31:54 PM
DBZ was awesome but what ever you do don't watch DBGT, without Toriyama that part of the series sank below my grannies grave.
Favourite Movie? It's gotta be the Cooler's Revenge, the music in that was so sweet!


Title: A total thread for all things Dragon Ball
Post by: DOMON KASSHU! on August 01, 2007, 07:12:29 PM
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DBZ was awesome but what ever you do don't watch DBGT, without Toriyama that part of the series sank below my grannies grave.
Favourite Movie? It's gotta be the Cooler's Revenge, the music in that was so sweet!


I liked GT to an extent. Toriyama did the character designs of the series, and Bebi Vegeta form 1 was cool as hell. You must be talking about the FUNimation dub. They used metal and other genre groups for their soundtracks.
War.


Title: A total thread for all things Dragon Ball
Post by: Galatea on August 01, 2007, 07:22:01 PM
Yeh it was the dub, i can't seems to get my hands on the original.
I only watched GT because it was still 'more dragonball' however that whole battle with the last dragon just blowed.


Title: A total thread for all things Dragon Ball
Post by: DOMON KASSHU! on August 01, 2007, 10:00:10 PM
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Yeh it was the dub, i can't seems to get my hands on the original.
I only watched GT because it was still 'more dragonball' however that whole battle with the last dragon just blowed.

It doesn't matter which dub you which it in, Cooler was still all right. Yeah, I'll review the Cooler movie soon enough. Even Metal Cooler. But before that I still have to review

The Tree of Might
World's Strongest
and of course Lord Slug.
War.


Title: A total thread for all things Dragon Ball
Post by: The Ghost Of Ember on August 01, 2007, 11:44:14 PM
Ah Dragon Ball Z. What happened to us? We were so happy together once.

We first met on an international channel, many years before I knew what anime was (though I had watched if through most of my youth), I was a blushing young manchild, you, an anime in it's prime. You showed me the power of Freeza, and even though I couldn't understand a word you uttered at the time, I was enraptured.

Then we drifted apart. It was a happy leaving, we both had to move on to other things, me to my burgeoning passion for computers, you with your desire to learn English and make it big in Hollywood.

When next we met, I barely recognized you. Twisted under the thumb of your new masters, you had changed. It was if you had been sent to some other dimension. A dimension of editing for a younger age group than you were intended for. But there was still some of the anime I had loved before in the twisted soul you had become, so our liaison continued once more.

It was not to be, and the final strike was after the climax of our relationship, when we walked once more through the familiar ground of Freeza. After this, it was as if you lost your self, and continued with halfhearted storylines. There were moments when you seemed as if you would come back to what you once were, but the horrors inflicted on you by the forced continuing by Japanese editors in your past, and the butchering by their American counterparts where too much. You fell into darkness, and there was nothing I could do anymore. I had to leave you.

But I did not forget, and for a time, I did not forgive. Bitterness is natural in a failed relationship such as ours. And at times I lashed out in anger. As time passed, however, I heard tales, that you had freed yourself from your American editors. Even as I tried to scowl and say I didn't care, inside I smiled.

Even now we sometimes meet, in the dark alleys of midnight showings. I watch you stand there in embarrassed silence, beautiful, terrible, flawed, perfect. Usually we just walk away, not speaking of things long buried. But sometimes, as we shuffle pass in shameful silence, and I hear you walk away, I turn, I shout. "I always loved you!"

But it is to late.

You are already gone.


...

Also: You clearly never knew how much shit blowing up the moon would actually cause. Human life surviving such a cataclysm = unlikely.


Title: A total thread for all things Dragon Ball
Post by: DOMON KASSHU! on August 01, 2007, 11:59:48 PM
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Ah Dragon Ball Z. What happened to us? We were so happy together once.

We first met on an international channel, many years before I knew what anime was (though I had watched if through most of my youth), I was a blushing young manchild, you, an anime in it's prime. You showed me the power of Freeza, and even though I couldn't understand a word you uttered at the time, I was enraptured.

Then we drifted apart. It was a happy leaving, we both had to move on to other things, me to my burgeoning passion for computers, you with your desire to learn English and make it big in Hollywood.

When next we met, I barely recognized you. Twisted under the thumb of your new masters, you had changed. It was if you had been sent to some other dimension. A dimension of editing for a younger age group than you were intended for. But there was still some of the anime I had loved before in the twisted soul you had become, so our liaison continued once more.

It was not to be, and the final strike was after the climax of our relationship, when we walked once more through the familiar ground of Freeza. After this, it was as if you lost your self, and continued with halfhearted storylines. There were moments when you seemed as if you would come back to what you once were, but the horrors inflicted on you by the forced continuing by Japanese editors in your past, and the butchering by their American counterparts where too much. You fell into darkness, and there was nothing I could do anymore. I had to leave you.

But I did not forget, and for a time, I did not forgive. Bitterness is natural in a failed relationship such as ours. And at times I lashed out in anger. As time passed, however, I heard tales, that you had freed yourself from your American editors. Even as I tried to scowl and say I didn't care, inside I smiled.

Even now we sometimes meet, in the dark alleys of midnight showings. I watch you stand there in embarrassed silence, beautiful, terrible, flawed, perfect. Usually we just walk away, not speaking of things long buried. But sometimes, as we shuffle pass in shameful silence, and I hear you walk away, I turn, I shout. "I always loved you!"

But it is to late.

You are already gone.


...

Also: You clearly never knew how much shit blowing up the moon would actually cause. Human life surviving such a cataclysm = unlikely.

Wow. What a twisted story of gain and loss. You make me weep.

And YOSH, I know about the moon thing. It's scifi fantasy, deal. Apparently the moon is unimportant in the Dragon Ball world.
War.


Title: Re: A total thread for all things Dragon Ball
Post by: DOMON KASSHU! on March 08, 2008, 08:49:35 AM
I still need to review the Tree of Might. Let me watch it real fast, and I shall do so.
War.