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Title: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Professor Vogler on July 26, 2010, 06:58:25 AM I've been hearing rumors of this for a bit now, but Adult swim seems to be putting the nail in the coffin.
http://www.mania.com/adult-swim-updates-august-schedule_article_123661.html According to this article (and a mention on tvtropes), it looks like AS is chopping the Saturday-only insomniac block of Anime into a 4-hour block. tvtropes says in its Network Decay page that the change will be Midnight-2AM... however the article says 10pm-2AM w/ repeat from 2AM-6AM. So no longer will there be a variety (if you could call it that) of anime, there will likely be an hour of Bleach, and then a couple other shows. Oh and FMA: Brotherhood, a flagship series with legions of fans and MONEY, will allegedly stop airing at Episode 26 on AS. Means that the 63 episode series will stop in the middle of fucking nowhere.... actually, it's 2 episodes before the Big Bad is revealed. Whoops! Whatever semblance of Anime that was on cable is now going extinct. Way to go. Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Wazpy on July 26, 2010, 12:37:40 PM Honestly, I never liked the idea of an anime block. It always ended up crappy. Instead, animes should be treated like any other show and not placed into a special category. Like look at Big O. It wasn't treated special and regulated to some silly anime block. It was just treated as the awesome show it was and allowed to mesh with Adult Swim's other stuff. Same deal with Cowboy Bebop.
Bottom line is they should show whatever is good. They shouldn't be required to play something just for being Japanese. Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Brooklyn Luckfield on July 26, 2010, 04:41:03 PM So, they are finally going to put the old Coup De Grace on Anime on AS? It's been a long time coming and I'm surprised they didn't start cutting back sooner honestly, as Anime has been on the verge of death on AS for years now.
Quote Oh and FMA: Brotherhood, a flagship series with legions of fans and MONEY, will allegedly stop airing at Episode 26 on AS. Means that the 63 episode series will stop in the middle of fucking nowhere.... actually, it's 2 episodes before the Big Bad is revealed. Whoops! Awesome move AS, brilliant! If this does indeed come to pass, then AS is even stupider than I though. Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Professor Vogler on July 27, 2010, 01:17:37 AM Not quite Graham. (also now watching Gundam00, awesome show)
I've talked to a few people in the industry and heard a few interviews, and it's more like AS has been trying to get rid of Anime. The executives (aka Mike Lazzo) are known for hating anime, and it isn't surprising that moves like this are being taken. Anime is not a small audience, it is a money making genre, and it's AS itself that's behind Anime being on the verge of death. It's a damn shame. Wazpy I'm not sure your point of view on the matter. The point I was making is I think this is just about the end of Anime on AS, not just an Anime block. Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Char Aznable on July 27, 2010, 02:37:14 AM I've ranted this on here once and I'll rant it again.
"Lazzo, pull your head out of your ass and show what makes money. Stop bitching about anime and notice it's popular as hell!" Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Brooklyn Luckfield on July 27, 2010, 04:01:42 AM Quote The executives (aka Mike Lazzo) are known for hating anime, and it isn't surprising that moves like this are being taken. It's way past time for Anime to find a new home for broadcast. Companies need to start looking at Sci-Fi, at least they have some ounce of respect for the shows they show. Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Wazpy on July 27, 2010, 09:43:26 AM Wazpy I'm not sure your point of view on the matter. The point I was making is I think this is just about the end of Anime on AS, not just an Anime block. My point is that Big O and Cowboy Bebop (and probably some things I'm forgetting) existed without the block. They're not necessarily cutting out anime completely. Those guys will show what they want. They just seem to be cutting out the block where they're obligated to show Japanese things, but if they find an anime they like and think will be popular, they'll make room for it. These are the same guys who liked Big O so much that they freaking sponsored it. Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Randolf on July 27, 2010, 01:27:26 PM Actually, I'm glad about AS dropping all anime. They're so in-your-face unprofessional, it's embarrassing; I'd much rather watch a DVD that I picked out and bought with my own money than suffer through their infantile tripe for a few episodes of something I've never heard of and may not even like.
I haven't forgotten Stripes. I probably never will, either. Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Yuko-san on July 27, 2010, 03:41:40 PM I remember that. I was 13 years old and it pissed me the fuck off. Then they did a joke about it the next week and showed the first 30 seconds of stripes again. Just to piss us off.
Seriously, back when I was still a very young teenager I had to do a weeks worth of chores just to get to watch Big O on sunday night. So I thought I'd be treated to a new episode and then that happens. I wanted to throttle Lazo. But then so did everyone else. Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: EyeOfPain on August 02, 2010, 04:06:50 PM I remember that. I was 13 years old and it pissed me the fuck off. Then they did a joke about it the next week and showed the first 30 seconds of stripes again. Just to piss us off. I actually found that somewhat amusing. The second time, not the actual mistake. Then again, I was old enough to stay up without parental consent. Is there any confirmation that FMA:B will no longer be shown? I thought this was just a hiatus, like with the first series. Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Ace of Spades on August 07, 2010, 01:13:30 AM We'll build our own Anime channel! with blackjack! aand hookers! you know what? forget the blackjack!
Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Sharpshooter005 on August 07, 2010, 12:31:01 PM I haven't forgotten Stripes. I probably never will, either. I on the other hand give them something of a pass because of this (it was funny. They trolled us all successfully). I emphasize "something" because it doesn't entirely excuse bringing family guy back to the airwaves, this BAFFLING obsession they have with tim and eric, or the cancellation of 12 oz mouse. (Also this "THEY HATE ANIME". By all accounts one of their favorite non-in house shows they've aired is FLCL.) Alot of this precieved animosity they have is because..to be honest the ratings, which is what t.v. lives and dies by, have never been particularly great for the saturday block. This may have something to do with how they've been picking up the rights to some pretty crappy shows for a while now. For every big o/ghost in the shell/flcl theres like five awful shows like wolfs rain. And what the hell is this kekkaiashi thing. Quote Companies need to start looking at Sci-Fi, at least they have some ounce of respect for the shows they show. If you're referring to the sci-fi channel this is absolutely incorrect. The head of the network has blatantly said they want to move away from that genre, hence them changing their branding. One of their flagship shows is wrestling. They also didn't air the 4th of july twilight zone marathon this year, which is pretty much an institution since WPIX in new york used to do it. Oh and their anime block was even worse, with the exception of monster, because I think they were locked into some contract with a single company (or maybe 2) and could basically only air what they had in their catalog. Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: EyeOfPain on August 07, 2010, 06:22:31 PM The Ani-Monday block is owned by Manga Entertainment, hence the reason they aired Ghost in The Shell: Solid State Society instead of [as].
Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Brooklyn Luckfield on August 07, 2010, 06:30:10 PM I haven't forgotten Stripes. I probably never will, either. I on the other hand give them something of a pass because of this (it was funny. They trolled us all successfully). I emphasize "something" because it doesn't entirely excuse bringing family guy back to the airwaves, this BAFFLING obsession they have with tim and eric, or the cancellation of 12 oz mouse. (Also this "THEY HATE ANIME". By all accounts one of their favorite non-in house shows they've aired is FLCL.) Alot of this precieved animosity they have is because..to be honest the ratings, which is what t.v. lives and dies by, have never been particularly great for the saturday block. This may have something to do with how they've been picking up the rights to some pretty crappy shows for a while now. For every big o/ghost in the shell/flcl theres like five awful shows like wolfs rain. And what the hell is this kekkaiashi thing. Quote Companies need to start looking at Sci-Fi, at least they have some ounce of respect for the shows they show. If you're referring to the sci-fi channel this is absolutely incorrect. The head of the network has blatantly said they want to move away from that genre, hence them changing their branding. One of their flagship shows is wrestling. They also didn't air the 4th of july twilight zone marathon this year, which is pretty much an institution since WPIX in new york used to do it. Oh and their anime block was even worse, with the exception of monster, because I think they were locked into some contract with a single company (or maybe 2) and could basically only air what they had in their catalog. I think we all wonder what AS's obsession with Tim and Eric is Sharp. Honestly AS needs to pick up Heroman, and mention that Stan Lee has something to do with it. Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Randolf on August 07, 2010, 11:56:18 PM I haven't forgotten Stripes. I probably never will, either. I on the other hand give them something of a pass because of this (it was funny. They trolled us all successfully). Well, you got us there. They chucked out the bait they knew we couldn't resist, and we bit -- oh, did we bite. Still, the fact that they were essentially trolling says a lot about their attitude. Family Guy makes me laugh once in a while, but it tends to kill that with indubitable grossity not long after. I sometimes wish Seth McFarlane would evaporate off the face of the earth. I have a similar opinion of the makers of almost every other program Adult Swim has produced. Except those feelings are even stronger. Much, much stronger. I forgive Family Guy because it made me laugh, even a little. The others can fry. Children's Hospital may summon forth an undead curse. Prepare ye pump-action shottys. Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Brooklyn Luckfield on August 08, 2010, 07:52:46 AM Quote Children's Hospital I've watch that a few times, and indeed my reaction is "WTF?! Is this shit suppose to be funny?". More of the same "haha see guys, wacky and zanny comedy!" Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Randolf on August 08, 2010, 04:25:34 PM That program is entirely dependent on the joke inherent in the contradictory title -- I.E., HAHA It's called Children's Hospital but nothing that happens on it is suitable for children! We are teh kewl! And teh funneh! Teh very funneh!"
Actually, I imagined the conversation at AS on the subject was not even that articulate. Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Yuko-san on August 09, 2010, 07:28:57 PM ^that sounds like the dumbest, craziest, most un-adult thing I've heard of. A tv show called Childrens hospital?
Seriously. I never seen it, but the sound of the title make me think some retard is punching babies with cancer. Am I even close to right? Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Sharpshooter005 on August 09, 2010, 08:54:52 PM AS didn't produce that, it was originally a web series. They bought the rights and funded a second season
Quote that sounds like the dumbest, craziest, most un-adult thing I've heard of. A tv show called Childrens hospital? It's a parody of grey's anatomy/general hospital/etc..it's not bad, in terms of genre parody it's definately not darkplace but its alright The best part of it though is this fake commercial they ran satirizing all those cop/spy shows (I think it was called "NTFS: SF: SUV" or some similar string of bizarre acronyms). It was literally...what, 10 seconds or so, and it was great. I'd actually rather that be the show. Quote I sometimes wish Seth McFarlane would evaporate off the face of the earth. Every time they air the viewing numbers, and two family guy reruns consistently top them, I swear I die inside a little bit. Particularly since they're now the only game in town that syndicates king of the hill, so during that I then get to be reminded "Oh, right, people with godawful taste outnumber me heavily." Quote The Ani-Monday block is owned by Manga Entertainment, hence the reason they aired Ghost in The Shell: Solid State Society instead of [as]. Right, I couldn't remember the company...boy was that a disappointment. When it premiered with GITS: SSC I remember thinking "Oh, nice, they're gonna be showing the good stuff". The week after I found myself asking "..What the hell is 'tokken'?" Are they still even doing it? Quote I have a similar opinion of the makers of almost every other program Adult Swim has produced. Matt Maillero is a visionary and the network/viewers just didn't understand 12 oz mouse. Also the guys behind sealab2021 are pretty good, the show they have on FX now is great. Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Randolf on August 09, 2010, 10:09:45 PM ^that sounds like the dumbest, craziest, most un-adult thing I've heard of. A tv show called Childrens hospital? Seriously. I never seen it, but the sound of the title make me think some retard is punching babies with cancer. Am I even close to right? Close. If you ever see the commercial for it, you'll see what I mean. "Let's show 'em what Childrens Hospital is all about!" *30 seconds of virtually uninterrupted macking, involving lesbians, old people, and guys in clown makeup and/or gorilla suits* The Hulu Ad Tailor keeps making me watch it. Over. And over. And over again. Quote Matt Maillero is a visionary and the network/viewers just didn't understand 12 oz mouse. Also the guys behind sealab2021 are pretty good, the show they have on FX now is great. This man is clinically insane. Do not listen to his lies. Pelt him with empty gin bottles and candy wrappers. EDIT: I was watching Trinity Blood on Hulu and the Ad Tailor offered me a choice between watching the full-length Childrens Hospital ad with no others ads during my show, or watching normal commercials. I chose the first option. It was disgusting. I'm watching fucking Trinity Blood for God's sake. I have to be registered member of Hulu just to see the damn thing at all. And nothing on that show gets to me. Nothing. And Childrens Hospital made me sick to my stomach-- just on the grounds that there is nothing to make any of this demented and horrifying stuff funny in any context. It's like they're not even trying! "Hey, let's show a bunch of people being vivisected or having sex, while children die painfully and we mock everything about ourselves we consider human! HILARIOUS!" May God strike Adult Swim dead. ...and yes, I am very pissed off. I was so grossed out I couldn't even enjoy watching vampires rip each others organs out and eat them. Stupid trailer. ...PLBBHTTHHH!! Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: EyeOfPain on August 12, 2010, 10:53:50 PM Quote The Ani-Monday block is owned by Manga Entertainment, hence the reason they aired Ghost in The Shell: Solid State Society instead of [as]. Right, I couldn't remember the company...boy was that a disappointment. When it premiered with GITS: SSC I remember thinking "Oh, nice, they're gonna be showing the good stuff". The week after I found myself asking "..What the hell is 'tokken'?" Are they still even doing it? Ani-Monday still runs, but I've never really payed close attention to it. Looks (http://www.syfy.com/anime/) like they're airing Requiem From the Darkness and one of the Gundams, probably OO. Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Sharpshooter005 on August 13, 2010, 10:19:32 PM I remember hearing...like..wayyy back, a while ago, they might run ergo proxy.
Which isn't that great of a show, I saw it when they aired it on fuse..I remember it seemed to play around with the whole "post-apocalypse but how did said apocalypse happen" notion in a way that seemed like it might go somewhere...then it didn't seem to. I mean it resolved it but I remember I just found the resolution kind of dull, considering it had moments where it looked like it was going for something better. Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: EyeOfPain on August 18, 2010, 10:52:57 PM I'm pretty sure Dai Sato never planned to fully explain how the apocalypse happened. I always figured it was just humanity's abuse of the environment went so far we had to retreat to those domed cities to allow the planet time to repair itself. Hence the proxies would make sure man stayed out of the world until it recovered.
But I didn't really understand the plot entirely, even when I first watched the ending. Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Brooklyn Luckfield on August 19, 2010, 12:36:23 AM Quote Particularly since they're now the only game in town that syndicates king of the hill, so during that I then get to be reminded "Oh, right, people with godawful taste outnumber me heavily." I'll be the first one to admit, I never really watched King of the Hill when is was on Fox, but It's really a great show and I'm glad that AS does show reruns of it. The Family Guy rerun numbers are indeed depressing. Title: Re: Adult Swim to finally remove Anime? Post by: Sharpshooter005 on August 19, 2010, 07:58:18 AM I'm pretty sure Dai Sato never planned to fully explain how the apocalypse happened. I always figured it was just humanity's abuse of the environment went so far we had to retreat to those domed cities to allow the planet time to repair itself. Hence the proxies would make sure man stayed out of the world until it recovered. But I didn't really understand the plot entirely, even when I first watched the ending. The closest they seemed to get to explaining it, as I recall, was an episode where the characters got stuck in some game show type thing. And even then it was just cybernetic Chuck Barris making some oblique reference about satellites. Better than big o, cause it just got bizarre at the end (Oh wait big o was supposed to have a 3rd season...that no explanation has ever been even hinted at. Sure) |