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Title: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: R. Daniel 01 on December 28, 2010, 09:28:42 PM
Anybody else seen GAINAX's masterful tribute to Power Puff Girls/ ecchi monster slaughterfest of amusing magnitude?

Divine retribution of the Bitchy Angels! Repent!

I've seen it surmised that the American style is a sign that GAINAX is out to troll the Weaboo. I have no idea what motivated them to switch it up, but I assume it was merely for the sake of diversifying their portfolio. Now if some American studio approached GAINAX as a result, I would lol.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Brooklyn Luckfield on December 28, 2010, 10:26:43 PM
My opinion on Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt is pretty much the same as the guys on the ANNcast. It's pretty god damn stupid and I REALLY wish the fans of the show would stop comparing it to South Park. South Park is generally satire. Pany and Stocking feels more like something Adult Swim would create complete with the sheer randomness and "humor" you'd expect.

I will give Gainax one thing. It's nice to see a Japanese studio break out of the generic design mold for a change and even if I hate the show, I hope it's successful and encourages more Japanese studio to try new stuff.



Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Randolf on December 28, 2010, 10:45:49 PM
Graham cracka be hatin'.

Not that I actually have an opinion.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: R. Daniel 01 on December 28, 2010, 10:59:19 PM
I see the logic behind the comparison. The show is mildly offensive. It's more cynical than satirical, though. Maybe that's where these fans get confused: they perceive any kind of subversive message and lump it all together.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Brooklyn Luckfield on December 28, 2010, 11:40:22 PM
I see the logic behind the comparison. The show is mildly offensive. It's more cynical than satirical, though. Maybe that's where these fans get confused: they perceive any kind of subversive message and lump it all together.

They do it with any show they perceive to be "edgy". I know the Hetalia dub get's compared to South Park all the time for it's Jew jokes and what not even if it is par for the course Funimation failure. Trey Parker and Matt Stone are trained comedy writers, the guys at Funimation, not so much.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: EyeOfPain on January 03, 2011, 02:16:52 PM
I know they went to college, but I don't quite understand the phrase "trained comedy writers."

And how can anyone not love the special effects at the end of nearly every episode?


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Professor Vogler on January 03, 2011, 03:11:05 PM
GOD MY OOHH!!!!!

...so yeah, I watched through all of PSG, and at first I think after 1/2 of the first episode my friends and I said "Never speak of this again". The show just kept getting more bizarre in the comments everywhere else (YouTube, TVtropes, forums) that I ended up watching the rest by myself. It's a really "on the border" show. I'm fairly sure the Japanese have no idea the magnitude of what they've done, but maybe they'll find out after the second season airs. ....yeah.... it's getting a season season.

This is Gainax one-upping South Park and American cartoons in a way only the Japanese could. Modern American cartoons are known for being quite dirty and raunchy, I'm fairly sure this is a precision jab at that. Though with that said, they manage to poke jabs at Japanese Anime institutions as well.

Oh, and for the record the big "holy crap" moment for me (in terms of revelations about PSG, not the per-minute "HOLY CRAP" from shock and awe) is that the villainous pair of the show went from "we WILL take over this city" into Team Rocket-status the very next episode.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Brooklyn Luckfield on January 04, 2011, 11:03:01 AM
I know they went to college, but I don't quite understand the phrase "trained comedy writers."

And how can anyone not love the special effects at the end of nearly every episode?

Experienced comedy writers would probably be a better way to describe Parker and Stone, my bad.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Yuko-san on January 05, 2011, 09:21:52 PM
My opinion on Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt is pretty much the same as the guys on the ANNcast. It's pretty god damn stupid and I REALLY wish the fans of the show would stop comparing it to South Park. South Park is generally satire. Pany and Stocking feels more like something Adult Swim would create complete with the sheer randomness and "humor" you'd expect.

I will give Gainax one thing. It's nice to see a Japanese studio break out of the generic design mold for a change and even if I hate the show, I hope it's successful and encourages more Japanese studio to try new stuff.

So GAINAX pulled a Lazo and shat something up?

I have never seen this, and from what I've read it seems to dirty to be on youtube. Then again Ding fry's are done is on youtube, but it's not a dirty song or video. So do I need redtube to view this?


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: R. Daniel 01 on January 06, 2011, 08:37:56 AM
I give the Victory Crown to Vogler. His confidence and truthiness won me over from Graham's dark side.

GOD! MY! OHHHH!

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So do I need redtube to view this?
Yuko, you greenhorn. Just go to gogoanime or animefushigi or any NUMBER of similar sites. Must I always save you?


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Yuko-san on January 06, 2011, 01:21:30 PM
O.O Ok then. I use zanime. I'll see if it's there.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: EyeOfPain on January 06, 2011, 08:15:30 PM
IRC is usually the fastest way to get new anime, but that's a whole other topic.
It's also available from Crunchyroll, uncensored, but you do need an account, which is free.

I should catch up; haven't even gotten to these "villains".


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Sharpshooter005 on January 10, 2011, 07:53:53 PM
Considering the name and subject matter

Is this like FLCL, where gainax got pissed for having to do a show then just went in the opposite direction and its meant as a jokey thing

Or is this a show about lolis and stockings. If its the latter I have to again ask why we maintain diplomatic relations with Japan.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Brooklyn Luckfield on January 10, 2011, 10:14:24 PM
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a show about lolis and stockings. If its the latter I have to again ask why we maintain diplomatic relations with Japan.

That and a gay black dude, and copious amounts crap streaming forward. It's basically Japan trying, and failing, to imitate dull and unfunny Adult Swim crap.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Professor Vogler on January 11, 2011, 02:07:11 AM
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a show about lolis and stockings. If its the latter I have to again ask why we maintain diplomatic relations with Japan.

That and a gay black dude, and copious amounts crap streaming forward. It's basically Japan trying, and failing, to imitate dull and unfunny Adult Swim crap.
No I'm pretty sure Gainax succeeded (also there is no lolicon, since they are adult aged "women"). This is Gainax's parody of the world's perception of American cartoons... and it's fairly spot on. Mix American cartoons crude and dirty humor with Japanese crude and dirty humor (and really weird censorship laws) and you get PSG. Thankfully though it's better than Family Guy or American Dad since it isn't degenerate, unfortunately that's not saying much since pretty much anything's better than Family Guy. PSG goes beyond even South Park with its vulgarity.

The fact that this show ended with a normal ending then a "Gainax ending" stinger so Gainax that even the main characters knew they were trolled AND it's getting a second season... all of it, really speaks volumes.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: R. Daniel 01 on January 11, 2011, 08:17:48 AM
HA... no. This is not a show about loli.

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a stinger so Gainax
Dude. That's. SOOO Gainax.

It was. Also, it was visual artistry, made doubly glorious by this battle theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vWaOoto7Ak). As far as I'm concerned, that entire last episode was a gift from above.

I disagree with "beyond South Park." Maybe you can sway me with your truthiness, Vogler.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Brooklyn Luckfield on January 11, 2011, 02:13:20 PM
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Thankfully though it's better than Family Guy or American Dad

I think pretty much anything is better than Seth McDerplands "comedy".

I should also point out that Panty and Stockings fan base is militant about the show. So much so that ANY more of criticism the show get's they flip the fuck out. Not that there's any of that in this thread. Just making a general statement based upon encounters with other Panty and Stocking fans.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Professor Vogler on January 11, 2011, 02:54:21 PM
I disagree with "beyond South Park." Maybe you can sway me with your truthiness, Vogler.
Think of it in the context that it's a Gainax non-hentai program being aired in Japan. They use English curses and obscenities written on screen and said in English to get around Japanese censorship laws (despite the audience knowing enough English to understand those words). Not to mention the content of the show... just... yeah, the content :o Definitely above and beyond the call compared to South Park here in a America.

Besides, with the exception of maybe the Imagination Trilogy or the fiasco that was the 200th + 201st episode, could you honestly watch an episode of South Park and then an episode (both halves) of PSG and come out equal "HSQ" (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HolyShitQuotient)?

RE: Graham - I'm not really finding militant fanboys/girls... extremely polarized maybe. You either hate the show or love it, there is no middle ground.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: The Final Negotiator on January 18, 2011, 10:27:08 PM
Went to gogoanime.com...

Of Gainax, I've only seen a few episodes of Neon Genesis Evangelion (out of curiosity), and about 1/4 of Gurren Lagann (because it's good). So I'm hardly a Gainax aficionado. Also, I've seen several Family Guy episodes (still liked Simpsons more), American Dad (weird, but a few rare chuckles), and South Park (only seen older ones and movie - but funny stuff).

Of Cartoon Network, it mostly (not the dance scene) resembles the "Rule 34" Cartoon Cartoon stuff - R-rated slapstick and banter. No loli. Superdeformed if anything.

Also, I really tried to find satire in it, but instead of seeing the "can you believe people like this stuff" attitude of satire, there's still to much of a "we think you'll like this stuff" attitude. Sure it's still somewhat funny, just not what I'd call satire... Yeah, did remind me of Lazo-approved CN stuff. So, I guess the excrement reference was appropriate... :-)

English swearing? Are they're two soundtracks because gogoanime's soundtrack had Japanese cussing; no English except "Panty" and "Stocking"...
Also, Youtube snuffed the battle theme, so it no worky. :-( Adult Swim may come calling, but I can't see other American studios going for this cartoon. I actually prefer the swearing in Gurren Lagann...


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Yuko-san on January 19, 2011, 12:31:59 AM
So these 3 girls apparently kill a zombie teddy bear with a glow in the dark vibrator. Those three girls are the main characters right?
Really? You gave a bunch of loli's a vibrator? Come on. That's like inviting pedobear to a kids party, it's just all sorts of wrong.

Then again...


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: R. Daniel 01 on January 19, 2011, 07:08:24 AM
I'm with Vogler. He puts it better. Polarizing indeed.


You're both so full of wrong. Negotiator, it sounds like you're too busy to watch stuff at all. There aren't two soundtracks, you probably just didn't watch the right episode.

Well, they make fun of things like living by the straight and narrow out in the country, of naive Geek Boys, of peoples' general stupidity. Stuff like that. They also copy PPG style to the point where you could call it either satire or an homage, or both.

Yuko, I'm baffled. There's two girls. There's a vibrator in there? Also they're too grotesquely deformed (as Negotiator correctly pointed up) to truly be loli. Well, lolis are also pretty grotesque, but they don't have sharp, jagged lines built into their design. Or wear heavy makeup and lots of gaudy gold jewelry, like Panty.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Sharpshooter005 on January 19, 2011, 08:38:33 PM
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Neon Genesis Evangelion (out of curiosity)

Sort of like how people will slow down to look at a gruesome wreck


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Sharpshooter005 on January 24, 2011, 12:57:10 AM
I've heard somewhere that AS did something to one of their forums that has led people to believe they want to pick up the rights to this.

Yeah, thats all there is to indicate such a deal. Then again apparently FLCL brought in a ton of ratings its first airing and is generally well regarded by the staff there so who knows.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Yuko-san on February 02, 2011, 11:22:12 AM
FLCL was totally awesome though. I have my doubts this show would get as high ratings as FLCL.
Also, besides just 2 girls doing random PPG stuff what was the premise of this show? I have yet to figure it out.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: R. Daniel 01 on February 02, 2011, 11:34:50 AM
I've heard somewhere that AS did something to one of their forums that has led people to believe they want to pick up the rights to this.

Yeah, thats all there is to indicate such a deal. Then again apparently FLCL brought in a ton of ratings its first airing and is generally well regarded by the staff there so who knows.

The people at my animation studio have nothing but disdain for the recent AS. It pleased me so deeply.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Randolf on February 02, 2011, 11:53:58 AM
The people at my animation studio have nothing but disdain for the recent AS. It pleased me so deeply.

Extend my regards-- nay, my congratulations-- to your compatriots.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Yuko-san on February 02, 2011, 11:56:09 AM
Is it me or is AS dying a slow cancer filled death?


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Randolf on February 02, 2011, 12:24:46 PM
Why do you think I'm saving up so much champagne?


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Sharpshooter005 on February 02, 2011, 06:01:18 PM
Is it me or is AS dying a slow cancer filled death?

Quote from: TVbythenumbers
Adult Swim
Across January 2011, Adult Swim ranked #1 for Total Day delivery of young adults 18-34, adults 18-24, men 18-34 and men 18-24.  Compared to January 2010, adults 18-34 delivery (497,000) grew by 4%, adults 18-24 delivery (269,000) grew by 8%, men 18-34 delivery (314,000) grew by 13%, men 18-24 delivery (175,000) grew by 18%.  Additionally, Adult Swim ranked #2 for Total Day delivery of adults 18-49 (behind USA), with average delivery (701,000) growing by 7%.

Yeah, you're not basing this supposition on anything but "my japanimation ;_;" are you.

For everything they do that irks me, they end up either intentionally or otherwise trolling like half the internet which then somewhat evens it out because its pretty amusing.

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American Dad (weird, but a few rare chuckles)

I found myself doing a complete 180 on this show, after the first season which was fairly bad (macfarlene, idiot he is, apparently pitched it as a "modern iteration of all in the family". Yeah you're not remotely norman lear, stick to dumbass cutaways and your fixation on musical theater) the writing staff just sort of went completely off in their own direction and it became easily four times the show family guy ever could be.

It has absolutely no cutaways, and aside from doing one of the voices I don't think macfarlenes ever written a single line of it.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Brooklyn Luckfield on February 02, 2011, 06:15:45 PM
Adult Swim could show nothing but Family Guy and it's stop motion spin off, and still grow it's viewership.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Yuko-san on February 02, 2011, 08:10:33 PM
So it's like ass cancer. The more you sit on it the larger it gets.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: R. Daniel 01 on February 02, 2011, 08:12:15 PM
That is a poor analogy. You just wanted to say ass.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Sharpshooter005 on February 04, 2011, 08:08:05 PM
I really can't blame them for family guy (in a way I could because the reruns got foxs attention, but also the dvd sales did so)

They are a business, people like that shit..hell they re-ran inuyasha for-fucking-ever because weeaboos have godawful taste. It got numbers

Welcome to the often fucking shitty world of t.v., ratings uber alles. I thought, and still think, that Terriers was the best show of 2010..FX axed it because of ratings, and thats a network thats known to give low-ratings shows a chance.

You wanna yell at somebody, yell at the viewers.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Sharpshooter005 on February 04, 2011, 08:13:48 PM
I campaigned on other corners of the intertubes for people to watch terriers

I didn't mention it here cause its not a cartoon with big robots, also theres 3 people on here, but I think its on itunes so if you have that you totally should go watch what you missed.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Brooklyn Luckfield on February 05, 2011, 12:37:05 AM
I'll check out Terriers. FX usually has pretty good shows.


Title: Re: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
Post by: Sharpshooter005 on February 05, 2011, 01:36:58 AM
It got canceled last year after one season (meanwhile glee probably got renewed for nine or something cause people like awful shit about karaoke)

It might still be on hulu I dunno. I'd still advise watching it.