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Question: Who da Crispy?  (Voting closed: September 05, 2007, 10:18:27 PM)
Paperclip - 3 (30%)
Pants - 7 (70%)
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« on: September 01, 2007, 10:18:27 PM »

Well, as you can tell, we never really settled who was going to play Crispy in the RP. So Pants and Paperclip were arguing so much about it that me and Hobo had to step in and make them settle it civilized-like. Now, write-offs aren't as common as Pistol showdowns, but we figure they're about half as entertaining, and you can do them over the interweb too! Anyways, vote for whoever you think would make a better Schwarzwald. Personally, I think I'm voting for Hobo, I mean, uh I mean  Pa-... Erm Stapler. Yeah. Totally voting for Stapler. Even though it's not an option on the poll. Voting will end four days after posting this. So nyah!

Whoever doesn't get Schwartzy gets O'Reilly if they want him. Do don't be a smartalec and call him for yourself. Or else Pants and Paperclip and Stapler might have to refer you to their friend Baseball Bat.

PANTS ENTRY
Truth.  It alone is what guides me.  Many people have looked upon the megadeuses of Paradigm.  Very few have ever touched one.  Fewer still, have controlled them.  I alone, however, have seen into the eyes of them.  I have seen what fraction of the greater Truth they hold, when all others turn a blind eye.  No… not all others.  The man known as Roger Smith, he is the only other person in this city who might be able to be brought to see the Truth through a megadeus.  However, his… unwillingness… to look for it, accompanied by a complete readiness to be the lapdog of Rosewater, well, that has led him to be something of a foe.

     A door opens on an old, rundown building on the outskirts of Paradigm City.  Through it, into the litter-filled street, steps a man garbed in brown shoes, black pants, a brown vest and trench coat, with a green tie.  The man is also wearing a neck brace, and is bandaged from head to toe.  A glass plate hides his left eye, while the right appears… unnatural.  Walking through the dredges of society, the man known as Schwarzwald thinks to himself of what must be done, and what has been done in his name.

     Many responded in earnest to the message… thinking truly that the ancient mechanical dragon could defeat the Big O, and topple the domes.  Fools.  The comedy of Paradigm is not yet meant to end, for you see…

     Arriving at a seemingly innocent street corner, Schwarzwald works his way up the fire escape of the least-decrepit of the buildings.  Any residents disturbed by a strange man climbing next to their windows show no sign of it, glancing only briefly enough to be sure the stranger had no intention of entering their domicile. Arriving upon the rooftop, Schwarzwald stands with one foot on the edge of the roof, leaning upon his leg, bows his head slightly and shuts his eyes. A resounding chorus of explosions fills the air, followed immediately by the sharp shattering and crashing of glass and steel.  Schwarzwald looks on, smiling, as the false sky shatters, causing chaos for those oblivious to the Truth, and undoubtedly distress for Paradigm Corporation and the Military Police.

     “This is the Truth of our world!  You dogs of Paradigm!  Hiding away in your domes will not save you!  This world will be wrought out of fire and of ice!  This world will be forged not by memories, but by Truth!”


PAPERCLIPS ENTRY
The dark is unfathomable. It does not exist, yet it is always present. It lurks in every shadow, hides in every corner, and spreads itself throughout the night sky. Most would describe the dark as a presence, a beast, a monster, something encroaching, something to be feared. This is a lie. One of numerous fictions proliferated in a world of myth and monsters.

The dark is an absence, invisibility in its truest form. It is something beyond the senses five. The light fills the dark, sends it skirting back into the shadows with the smallest of flames. Was there anything beyond the dark, or does what exists beyond the senses fade into the shadows along with the dark? Does the light reveal, or create?

The dark heralds a gift, a slight glimmer of transparency, borne from the shadow, filled by light. It stays there for a moment, hanging onto the shadow, reflecting the light back onto itself, holding back creation. Then it falls from the shadow and joins the light, revealing itself as a droplet of water. It joins the puddle awaiting it, where light and shadow cross, intermixing and creating the world.

From somewhere in-between the light and the dark the creature grins to himself. His tongue rolls around in his oversized jowls as he watches the interplay thoughtfully. He supposes if he were to light the darkness overhead, he would see a pipe or other logical source of water droplets. He does not look, but rather returns to his gaze to the typewriter before him.

There is much to be done, and the page is still blank.

Another droplet falls, and the creature taps a key in unison. The man Seebach is dead, but there is still much plundering that can be done in his name. The creature has plumbed the depths of the darkness already, and the underground has been created before his eyes. It was not an exercise without point, but already he has seen the light outside the city to be more prosperous, and already he is feeling the siren call of the Truth.

But there is much to be done, and there is only one letter one the page.

The manifesto has already been written, the printing finished before he even left for the first time into the wastes. Now there was only the letter left, signed and delivered in Seebachs name, sent by the will of his estate. Another droplet falls, another key is tapped.

There is still the matter of the letter, and what a matter it is. So much needs to be imparted, and the passion that runs through him is so great than he feels as if he could send the typewriter screeching to keep up with hands. The blank page mocks him. Only two characters. Nothing comes out right.

Another droplet falls, and the creature flails in frustration, pushing the ugly blue fold out table and sending it spilling, the typewriter clanging on the ground. He stands, fumbling in his pocket for what he needs. He finds it, pulling the lighter from its hiding and standing to light the subway tracks around him. The source of the droplets was a pipe, but does the light reveal, or…?

The creature sits dejectedly in his chair, the lighter flame dying in his hands. He wants to know everything, he wants to understand everything, and he is so close, and yet so far. That lapdog is already well on his way to understanding. Why need the letter at all? Why not let him find his own way?

But the droplet falls once more, and the creature is no longer certain there’s a water pipe beyond the dark. So he lifts the table, restores the typewriter to it’s proper position, and begins again.

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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2007, 10:56:57 AM »

I like Pants' entry because it seems more suitable for an RP.


Paperclips was good too, but it seemed too long and drawn out to be practical for an RP. It would be good for fanfiction though.
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2007, 04:14:58 PM »

While I thought the general layout of the Pants post was more in line with Schwarzwald's character, I didn't honestly think that what it was saying was exceptionally relevant to him. In other words, it seemed in touch with the character only in a surface way. Paperclip lacked that classic Schwarzwald formula of dialogue and all that, but its message was very clear and appealing, and I thought the overall quality of writing was extremely good. That's why Paperclip got my vote.
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2007, 04:18:48 PM »

Pants seemed to have more of that Classic Schwarzwald feel to it.

I liked where paperclips was going, but Pants really had it nailed down.
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2007, 04:34:57 PM »

I choose pants.

Pants has more cowbell than paperclip.


Honestly Pants has the pure raw psychotic nature of Schwarzwald right where it needs to be. The *only* part which urked me, was "that has led him to be something of a foe."... foe doesn't sounds too Schwarzwaldy to me, perhaps another metaphor or synonym would have been more Schwarzwaldy.

Paperclip, like others have mentioned, is more along the lines of a really good Schwarzwald Fanfiction. It's vague, mysterious, and you're on an acid trip halfway to the end: very Schwarzwald. The only problem is that it's too vague for use in an RPG... at least in my opinion. Vague is very nice (especially for Schwarzwald) and it comes in useful when there's a major plot twist about to happen and we may need to coordinate several members into it... however, it still needs to be blatantly explained enough for the rest of RPers to say "oh I see what's going on".

Pants = yes, Paperclip = honored runner-up

Sorry, but Paperclip is the weakest link....goodbye.
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2007, 09:07:07 PM »

I would like to point out that there were no specifications to the contest other than a maximum of short story length, and even that was left pretty vague. Roleplaying style was never specified, and both contestants clearly approached the challenge with two different mindsets; one from a more traditional style RP format and another from a more fan-fiction grounded format. So while there are legitimate reasons not to choose Paperclips work, don't rule it out simply because it is in fan-fiction format.
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2007, 09:46:02 PM »

I actually went with Paperclip.  Something about the writing style just worked better for me, and while this particular post has no dialogue and little action, I could see where the author would easily be able to adapt for RP writing.  The only thing I don't really like is the use of present tense, but that's a personal tick on my part.  
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2007, 06:17:54 PM »

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I would like to point out that there were no specifications to the contest other than a maximum of short story length, and even that was left pretty vague. Roleplaying style was never specified, and both contestants clearly approached the challenge with two different mindsets; one from a more traditional style RP format and another from a more fan-fiction grounded format. So while there are legitimate reasons not to choose Paperclips work, don't rule it out simply because it is in fan-fiction format.
I highly concur. Make your decisions wisely, guys--"it's long like fanfiction" is kind of a shitty reason. :X

I love how I feel so strongly about this and I don't even know who's responsible for it. XD
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2007, 01:10:48 AM »

Well, it's Wednesday night, four days after the contest began, the poll has ended. All I have to say is....

WOO YEAH! IN YOUR FACE PAPERCLIP! PANTS REIGNS SUPREME!



...Wait. I was Paperclip?

...

Oh.




Well that's kind of humiliating.

I was pretty annoyed by this Sunday, when the results became apparent (my lack of sleep didn't help things either), but now I've settled into cold indifference. Plus; my two supporters were both chicks! Score! I had expected to loose, and I can't help but feel subconscious self-sabatoge had at least a minor effect on my performance, but I'm still a bit mystified as to how I lost by such a landslide.

As for the two major complaints lodged at my entry, fanfiction length and vagueness (I do not take issue with those saying that Pant's entry evoked Schwarzwald more than mine; that's their prerogative, and the point of this little competition), I must respond with bewilderment. On the subject of length, I will say that yes, it was designed to be the length of a fairly short fanfic, but that was because (a, I thought that was what we were aiming for (since I find it hard to judge a writer based on more than a paragraph or two at most), and b) I didn't think it was even a factor. And even then my entry clocks in a a modest 630 words. Mind you, that the actual RP has had a total average of 776 words per post (providing I'm doing the math on this right, it seems right, as that most entries hover between 400 and 900 words, with a few in the thousands to jump the statistics). On the second count I must answer vagueness with... vagueness. What is vague about the entry? The symbology (deliberate, and in cohesion with the series)? The narrative (I thought it was perfectly clear; Schwarzwald is composing the letter to Roger, shortly before his second deadly trip into the desert)? The fact that I didn't use the name 'Schwarzwald?'

The lack of Schwarzwald's 'boisterousness' and dialog was a deliberate decision, as stupid as that sounds, I wanted a somewhat subdued scene to show an understanding of the character in a setting where he is completely alone (which he is throughout most of the series, only appearing every once and awhile to shout speeches at us). As well, I wanted to evoke the sense of his very first voice over, with his quieter tone and the water dripping into the puddle. I also have a hard time seeing him rambling speeches such as that to himself (though, he may have an internal monologue to match). He strikes me as the sort who needs an audience, even one as abstract as the city itself, or the viewer, depending on how you interpret his narration.

I'm using far too many parentheses (but it's not enough to make me stop).

As for the main symbology 'the dark' and 'the light', it's a mix of bible symbology ("Now the earth proved to be formless [...] and there was darkness upon the [...] watery deep [...]"Let there be light!") and a sort of metaphor for Schwarzwald's self-defeating nature. (To quote the character analysis on Paradigm City: "Schwarzwald walks in the tradition of Socrates and his ilk, taking nothing for granted and questioning everything in an uncertain world. However, the Socratic method never leads to certain results – Socrates' questions are meant to provoke conversation and give us a deeper understanding and connection to ourselves and those around us, not provide a clear image of the true nature of reality, an image that Schwarzwald desires.")

'The senses five' is a shout out to Blake, namely The Marriage of Heaven & Hell, which Schwarzwald quotes (I haven't read 'Leviathan', which he also quotes, or 'The Divine Comedy', which I believe he alludes too, though, this may be wishful thinking on my part).

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The only thing I don't really like is the use of present tense, but that's a personal tick on my part.
This is because I am tense-blind. Namely, I rarely notice the difference between past and present tense, and since the difference is usually just the letters 'ed'... *Shrugs* It's something I should be better about, but meh.

So it looks like I'm R. Fredrick O'Reilly then, but please, call me Freddy.
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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2007, 01:35:59 PM »

Aww, sorry, man.  I liked your entry, obviously.  I didn't agree with all the reasons for not voting for it, but.. eh, it's over and done with now.  I look forward to seeing a post for Freddy.   Smiley  
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